‘She chose my birthday to fight about this’: Teen turns mom’s birthday Starbucks stop into a loud public yelling argument about hating her own name

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  • Just a quiet BDay coffee, what could go wrong? A teenager, that's what.

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  • She Chose My Birthday To Fight About This

    This child of mine is going to put me in an early grave! It's my birthday today so I take us to Starbucks for my free drink and to treat her with her cookie crumble Frappuccino.
  • I should have just waited until after I dropped her off for school to get my birthday treat.
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  • She always picks a fight on days that are special to me. Mother's day, Christmas, my birthday, her birthday, Thanksgiving...
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  • it never ends. It never changes. It comes time for this child to order her drink and she does that flawlessly then when they ask for her name, she looks at me like she just forgot her own name.
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  • At 16, she shouldn't be doing this at a Starbucks! I tell them her name. It's a simple name, but it has an 'r' in the middle.
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  • She has a slight speech impediment and insists no one can understand her, but they can.
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  • Her 'r' sounds more like a light 'w'. It's not a huge deal and most people can figure it out.
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  • She's in speech therapy but she won't take it seriously enough. She just sits there and gets mad when I make her do her homework for it.
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  • She then loudly exclaims, in the middle of Starbucks, "I hate my name! You should have named me something easier to say like Katherine!" No, child, I didn't name you around a speech impediment I didn't know you would have.
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  • I'm guessing this is how mom imagined her birthday, well, teen daughter had other plans.

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  • How could I have known this. She continues to YELL AT ME in the middle of Starbucks while we wait for our drinks to come out.
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  • I should have brough a mini bottle of bourbon with me. I remain calm most of this conversation.
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  • Tell her she is being disrespectful and shouldn't be yelling at me in the middle of Starbucks.
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  • I am not doing anything to deserve being yelled at. She never once told me before that she hates her name, but she started screaming that she told me again and again.
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  • I finally had enough and had to threaten to make her walk to school if she didn't stop.
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  • I cried most of the 1.5 hour drive to work. I literally ask for one day a year for her to be nice to me.
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  • Just one day. I don't even get the morning. I love my daughter but she is growing more and more angry as time goes on.
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  • Therapy isn't helping, friends who love her and celebrate her constantly aren't helping. I am at the end of my rope.
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  • queerreindeer Ironically there's an r in Katherine too. Sorry you are treated this way, OP, I imagined teenager are hard to deal with. Happy birthday!
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply I pointed that out and she said "It's different"
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  • 8167lliw Risking my first hand knowledge that most parents (myself included) do not want their child to suffer any uncontrollable difficulties, but between the outburst, the insecurity around her name, and her "slight" speech impediment, I think there's more going on than "normal" teen angst. Edit: What are the credentials of her unhelpful therapist? (LPC, LMFT, LCSW, Clinical Psychologist, etc.) Are they under supervision or are they fully licensed? If they are fully licensed, how long have the
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply She has had several. We keep trying to find one that is a good fit under her insurance (I can't afford to pay $400/month again out of pocket for 2 visits a month). She decided to just sit and stare at her last therapist for 3 months. straight or yell at her. She was a therapist for 30 years. Now we're starting with a new one who has been a therapist for 10 years, but she was willing to text my daughter so she could ask questions about how therapy works
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  • Hey_Its_Julia Aaaaaaaand once again I'm reminded of why I never want to be a parent. Happy birthday though.
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply Glad I could help
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  • QueenNiadra2 I mean, depending on her name - a hard R is definitely different than a soft R. Katherine has a very gentle R (and is less noticeable with a lisp). As someone who had to take speech therapy growing up, your daughter is just lashing out because shes frustrated. Its pretty typical of teenagers, I know I had my moments. She will come to a point where she realizes the world isnt out to get her, and youre just trying to help. I hope she does soon. Im sorry she wrecked your birthday. No o
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply It's the same type of 'r' in Kara, Sara or Farrah
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  • Superliminal_MyAss With AuDHD and clinical depression she has a bit of an excuse even though it's absolutely not okay to take it out on those around you. My only personal experience is with clinical depression which can be very very difficult. She could feel out of control a lot of the time and easily frustrated by it. When I had clinical depression the lack of control I had over my own emotions was very jarring and frustrating at times.
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply I am also AuDHD with clinical depression and general anxiety. I didn't get diagnosed until I was an adult. I know how hard it is to control your temper, but I did it. I did it out of fear of my mother, but I did it. I just refuse to be my mother.
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  • aggressively_baked My youngest is on the spectrum. I felt like when anything big would happen he would have a moment but in his moment it would end up ruining my day. A final straw for me involved that I got a new job and I was so excited and happy for it and he acted out. I broke down and cried in front of him and told him that he straight up ruined what was supposed to be a very happy day for me. It took that for him to see this is actually hurting her. Now I don't know if that would work for
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply My daughter is also autistic but VERY high functioning. I've tried this. I tried this today on the ride to school and she just turned it around and said that I don't celebrate her birthday on her birthday (Dec 23rd was in the middle of week this year) so why should I get a treat on my birthday. I wish it worked well with her.
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  • 8167lliw I understand, therapy requires effort on both sides. Although, using one's diagnosis as an excuse (which the OP suggested was occurring) is a learned behavior. Oftentimes learned (or at least ascertained) from an inadequate therapist. Sometimes therapists need to do more heavy lifting for emotionally immature and/or younger (even teenaged) clients.
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply The one therapist she liked was in training/being overseen. She didn't have much experience and my daughter would bully her and she allowed it. She told her to bully her instead of me (didn't work and not something I would have condoned had I known about it). I'm pretty sure she is the one who was allowing her to use her diagnosis as an excuse.
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  • Be Prepared 911 Happy birthday! But I'm sorry this is going on with you and your daughter. To be honest though, I think it's ridiculous to suggest she is developing NPD like one comment has said. She's literally sixteen, and the behavior you've described (as someone who works with this population) falls within the "normal" range of teen behavior. Since you know she's insecure about her speech impediment, you could have just said her name for her. It's really not that big a deal. Teens develop co
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply I immediately said her name for her, but told her afterwards that she needs to start speaking her name more in public.
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  • TentaclesAndCupcakes Respectfully, maybe you should treat anger with anger. Otherwise she's just going to end up walking all over you. Personally, I think this "gentle parenting" thing where you don't show your actual, valid feelings of anger/disappointment to your kids is going too far the other way.
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply I should have said I don't show her explosive anger anger in response, especially if she actually hates her name. I did tell her she can shut up or walk to school which got her to stop yelling. She still grumbled, but the yelling stopped.
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  • SleepyCupcakeDreams It's a warning sign of narcissistic personality disorder to show your ass on important holidays etc. you will have to nip it in the bud before it gets worse. And stop rewarding bad behavior!!!!
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  • Minute_Marzipan4597 Original Poster's Reply The issue is that she spends a lot of time with her father who was diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and the more she spends with him, the worse she gets. I've put her in therapy and try to show her that you don't treat anger with anger.
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